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Hijab in public, "secular" institutions
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I. S.
Mar 18 2009, 02:29 PMWhat do you all think of the following report from Human Rights Watch, regarding some German states' attempts to restrict women from wearing headscarves in public employment, http://www.hrw.org/en/reports/2009/02/25/discrimination-name..., or similar restrictions with which you might be familiar?
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Misko Radosavljevik
Mar 18 2009, 04:19 PMInteresting!!! I have anwser to this question both from proffesional side and private. Professionaly i do not see specific breach of human rights because you are free to practice religion in mosques at home, plus this restriction is also part of security measures....Privately i do not see why should some women in modern, democratic countrys wears this headscarves expeciially the one in the Iraq or Afganisthan!!? This headscarfes are against nature against eye contact against establishing contacts with people, against social life......
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Shah Muhammad Khan
Apr 02 2009, 10:18 AMi thank this is against the human rights because according to the universal declaration of human rights the freedom of religion should be fully secured and promoted. about sixth of the total population of the world believe in hijab and most of whom observed it strictly and religiously so no one should interfere in other religious matters. if a country like german voilated the provisions the universal declaration of human rights than from which country we expect to care about the human rights. besides the matter is also related to culture which are very important for some societies. there are other measures through which we take security and law and order.[Edited Apr 02 2009]
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Deleted User
Apr 17 2009, 03:11 PMCertainly restrictions of wearing headscarves in public employment are infringing religious rights. However, this does not mean they are automatically illegal or violating the HR conventions, as most of the human rights include the possibility to restrict them (included in the conventions). The reason for this is obvious: As soon as there are two human rights conflicting, there has to be decided on a case-by-case basis which one has to prevail. There is no other possibility, as the only alternative - which is not a viable one - would be that the legislator rules in advance any possible situation of conflict (which he never would foresee. Nobody of the creators of the European Communities in 1950ies thought they could ever infringe human rights as a simple economic integration zone, but in fact we had to realize that this can be the case).
In our question of teachers there are the conflicting right of religious freedom and the right of parents in a secular state to decide the values to be taught to their children.
Which one should prevail?
I think there are - as in most cases - good reasons for both of the rights. So I don't give you my personal answer. Just try to get your own view and to accept that others might see this differently from you, and remember that both views are legitimate.
If the parents' rights should prevail, this would certainly mean that all the religions have to be treated equally and there must be restrictions also of other religious symbols. That is right what we have in France and also in parts of Germany, where the constitutional courts have forbidden christian symbols (Cross) in classrooms.
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Shah Muhammad Khan
Jun 13 2009, 12:33 PMi think the universal declaration of human rights itself is controversial as it was proclaimed and drafted in a situation where the participation of the well versed scholars of the famous and beg religions of the world was not satisified. therefore there is extreme need for the redrafting and reform of the declaration ohterwise there will be conflicts betweem this declaration and other municiple laws.
what do you think?????????????????????????
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Raja Sajjad
Sep 24 2009, 11:12 AMWearin headcarves in Public place should not be banned.Even a Non Muslim can wear this if she wants to be it is against fundamental rights.
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Misko Radosavljevik
Sep 24 2009, 01:42 PMI would like to inform this group for establishing Institute for human rights in Macedonia, establishers are, one well known lawyer from Skopje, former public prosecutor, former judge from Macedonia in Human rights court in Strazbur and Macedonian Young lawyers association!! If you are participants of similar organization institute i can give you the contact and we can work on different projects concerning human rights!
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Gull Hassan Khan
Nov 12 2010, 03:20 PMI hope that Hijab of Nuns ll not be removed forcibly As they are Christian.[Edited Nov 12 2010]
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Prof. Jaiprakashreddy Patil
Jun 08 2011, 05:47 AMFreedom of the individual to wear or not wear headcarves cannot be interfered with by any civilised nation.
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Mian Muhammad Ashraf Asmi Advocate
Jun 08 2011, 02:51 PMyes it is one's own choice to wear or not wear..........it should not be forcefully enforced.
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